Hi all. Sparky Butterfly here. I was just wondering how it is that
you become included in the postal letterboxing? I have found 100+
boxes and many HH's and I thought it would be neat to expand my boxing
to postals but was not sure how to become part of that loop. Any
suggestions very welcom
Sparky Butterfly
Postal Boxes
20 messages in this thread |
Started on 2007-06-23
Postal Boxes
From: Heather (bella0514@aol.com) |
Date: 2007-06-23 04:49:53 UTC
Re: Postal Boxes
From: trekkiegal1701d (kjnohr@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2007-06-23 05:00:51 UTC
A great way to get started is through a newbie ring. You can contact
Celtic Quinn here (sorry, I don't remember his email address) or
through Atlas Quest to find out how to get involved in a newbie
ring. You can also sign up for the Yahoo postal group:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/postal_letterboxing/
TG
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Heather" wrote:
>
> Hi all. Sparky Butterfly here. I was just wondering how it is
that
> you become included in the postal letterboxing? I have found 100+
> boxes and many HH's and I thought it would be neat to expand my
boxing
> to postals but was not sure how to become part of that loop. Any
> suggestions very welcom
>
> Sparky Butterfly
>
Celtic Quinn here (sorry, I don't remember his email address) or
through Atlas Quest to find out how to get involved in a newbie
ring. You can also sign up for the Yahoo postal group:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/postal_letterboxing/
TG
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Heather"
>
> Hi all. Sparky Butterfly here. I was just wondering how it is
that
> you become included in the postal letterboxing? I have found 100+
> boxes and many HH's and I thought it would be neat to expand my
boxing
> to postals but was not sure how to become part of that loop. Any
> suggestions very welcom
>
> Sparky Butterfly
>
Re: Postal Boxes
From: Melody (mel4pg@aol.com) |
Date: 2007-06-23 11:53:19 UTC
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "trekkiegal1701d"
wrote:
>
> A great way to get started is through a newbie ring. You can
contact
> Celtic Quinn here (sorry, I don't remember his email address) or
> through Atlas Quest to find out how to get involved in a newbie
> ring. You can also sign up for the Yahoo postal group:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/postal_letterboxing/
>
> TG
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Heather" wrote:
> >
> > Hi all. Sparky Butterfly here. I was just wondering how it is
> that
> > you become included in the postal letterboxing? I have found
100+
> > boxes and many HH's and I thought it would be neat to expand my
> boxing
> > to postals but was not sure how to become part of that loop. Any
> > suggestions very welcom
> >
> > Sparky Butterfly
> >
>
Or just watch for new postals being posted on Atlasquest, and sign up
there!
Mel of Belmer
wrote:
>
> A great way to get started is through a newbie ring. You can
contact
> Celtic Quinn here (sorry, I don't remember his email address) or
> through Atlas Quest to find out how to get involved in a newbie
> ring. You can also sign up for the Yahoo postal group:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/postal_letterboxing/
>
> TG
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Heather"
> >
> > Hi all. Sparky Butterfly here. I was just wondering how it is
> that
> > you become included in the postal letterboxing? I have found
100+
> > boxes and many HH's and I thought it would be neat to expand my
> boxing
> > to postals but was not sure how to become part of that loop. Any
> > suggestions very welcom
> >
> > Sparky Butterfly
> >
>
Or just watch for new postals being posted on Atlasquest, and sign up
there!
Mel of Belmer
Re: Postal Boxes
From: Lightnin Bug (rpboehme@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2007-06-23 12:00:30 UTC
Try Here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/postal_letterboxing/
LB
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Heather" wrote:
>
> Hi all. Sparky Butterfly here. I was just wondering how it is that
> you become included in the postal letterboxing? I have found 100+
> boxes and many HH's and I thought it would be neat to expand my
boxing
> to postals but was not sure how to become part of that loop. Any
> suggestions very welcom
>
> Sparky Butterfly
>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/postal_letterboxing/
LB
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Heather"
>
> Hi all. Sparky Butterfly here. I was just wondering how it is that
> you become included in the postal letterboxing? I have found 100+
> boxes and many HH's and I thought it would be neat to expand my
boxing
> to postals but was not sure how to become part of that loop. Any
> suggestions very welcom
>
> Sparky Butterfly
>
Re: [LbNA] Re: Postal Boxes
From: Vanessa McAlhaney (mcalhaney2@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2007-06-23 05:07:20 UTC-07:00
Sorry to interupt. But Umm... whats a postal letterbox??? I went to the yahoo group and it didnt really say other than a offshoot from letterboxing?
Lightnin Bug wrote: Try Here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/postal_letterboxing/
LB
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Heather" wrote:
>
> Hi all. Sparky Butterfly here. I was just wondering how it is that
> you become included in the postal letterboxing? I have found 100+
> boxes and many HH's and I thought it would be neat to expand my
boxing
> to postals but was not sure how to become part of that loop. Any
> suggestions very welcom
>
> Sparky Butterfly
>
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Lightnin Bug
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/postal_letterboxing/
LB
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Heather"
>
> Hi all. Sparky Butterfly here. I was just wondering how it is that
> you become included in the postal letterboxing? I have found 100+
> boxes and many HH's and I thought it would be neat to expand my
boxing
> to postals but was not sure how to become part of that loop. Any
> suggestions very welcom
>
> Sparky Butterfly
>
---------------------------------
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Re: [LbNA] Postal Boxes
From: Kirbert (PalmK@nettally.com) |
Date: 2007-06-23 10:10:04 UTC-04:00
Heather wrote:
> Hi all. Sparky Butterfly here. I was just wondering how it is that
> you become included in the postal letterboxing? I have found 100+
> boxes and many HH's and I thought it would be neat to expand my boxing
> to postals but was not sure how to become part of that loop.
I almost afraid to tell you this. Log onto AtlasQuest.com and select
"Boards", then "Categories", then "Letterbox Central", then "Postal
Letterboxes". In fact, select "Boards" then "Favorite Boards" and
sign up for that board. You'll be up to your eyeballs in postals in
a New York minute, and we'll never hear from you again!
You might want to know that many of those members consider postals an
opportunity to carve large stamps, larger than you'll typically find
in a regular letterbox. There have been a couple that were carved
from an entire sheet of PZ Kut, which is 10" x 4.75".
-- Kirbert
> Hi all. Sparky Butterfly here. I was just wondering how it is that
> you become included in the postal letterboxing? I have found 100+
> boxes and many HH's and I thought it would be neat to expand my boxing
> to postals but was not sure how to become part of that loop.
I almost afraid to tell you this. Log onto AtlasQuest.com and select
"Boards", then "Categories", then "Letterbox Central", then "Postal
Letterboxes". In fact, select "Boards" then "Favorite Boards" and
sign up for that board. You'll be up to your eyeballs in postals in
a New York minute, and we'll never hear from you again!
You might want to know that many of those members consider postals an
opportunity to carve large stamps, larger than you'll typically find
in a regular letterbox. There have been a couple that were carved
from an entire sheet of PZ Kut, which is 10" x 4.75".
-- Kirbert
Re: [LbNA] Re: Postal Boxes
From: Kirbert (PalmK@nettally.com) |
Date: 2007-06-23 10:20:37 UTC-04:00
Vanessa McAlhaney wrote:
> Sorry to interupt. But Umm... whats a postal letterbox??? I went to
> the yahoo group and it didnt really say other than a offshoot from
> letterboxing?
Letterboxing for the infirm and homebound. The box arrives in your
mailbox, you stamp in, then ship it off to somewhere else. No need
to ever put on your hiking boots or put gas in the car. You can find
better descriptions on AtlasQuest.com.
In the original incarnation, you'd ship it back to the owner.
Nowadays, though, a "ring" is popular where you ship it on to the
next guy in the ring, until it makes it around and back to the owner.
-- Kirbert
> Sorry to interupt. But Umm... whats a postal letterbox??? I went to
> the yahoo group and it didnt really say other than a offshoot from
> letterboxing?
Letterboxing for the infirm and homebound. The box arrives in your
mailbox, you stamp in, then ship it off to somewhere else. No need
to ever put on your hiking boots or put gas in the car. You can find
better descriptions on AtlasQuest.com.
In the original incarnation, you'd ship it back to the owner.
Nowadays, though, a "ring" is popular where you ship it on to the
next guy in the ring, until it makes it around and back to the owner.
-- Kirbert
[LbNA] Re: Postal Boxes
From: perdu_watcher (perdu_watcher@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2007-06-23 14:39:14 UTC
My two cents on postal Lb's....I LOVE them! But, they are highly
addictive.
They are for anyone.
Pick a theme/catagory/idea and see who is interested in creating a
stamp and logbook. I prefer when each member of the ring knows who
all is in it but only has one address.
The ring leader sets a start date. On that date everyone mails
their own Postal Lb to the one address they have, then when they
receive one they stamp just like finding one in the wild and again
mail to their one address. When you receive yours back, the ring
has completed and you can retire the Lb or plant it in the wild.
Sometimes we can do things we wouldn't normally do for 'wild'
plants. Like include a tape/cd with 'must listen to' music or
swap...something, etc.
Ok, that's probably a dime rather than two cents, but like I said,
love 'em and they're addictive...that's my story and I'm stickin' to
it.
~Perdu
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Kirbert" wrote:
>
> Vanessa McAlhaney wrote:
>
> > Sorry to interupt. But Umm... whats a postal letterbox??? I went
to
> > the yahoo group and it didnt really say other than a offshoot
from
> > letterboxing?
>
> Letterboxing for the infirm and homebound. The box arrives in
your
> mailbox, you stamp in, then ship it off to somewhere else. No
need
> to ever put on your hiking boots or put gas in the car. You can
find
> better descriptions on AtlasQuest.com.
>
> In the original incarnation, you'd ship it back to the owner.
> Nowadays, though, a "ring" is popular where you ship it on to the
> next guy in the ring, until it makes it around and back to the
owner.
>
> -- Kirbert
>
addictive.
They are for anyone.
Pick a theme/catagory/idea and see who is interested in creating a
stamp and logbook. I prefer when each member of the ring knows who
all is in it but only has one address.
The ring leader sets a start date. On that date everyone mails
their own Postal Lb to the one address they have, then when they
receive one they stamp just like finding one in the wild and again
mail to their one address. When you receive yours back, the ring
has completed and you can retire the Lb or plant it in the wild.
Sometimes we can do things we wouldn't normally do for 'wild'
plants. Like include a tape/cd with 'must listen to' music or
swap...something, etc.
Ok, that's probably a dime rather than two cents, but like I said,
love 'em and they're addictive...that's my story and I'm stickin' to
it.
~Perdu
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Kirbert"
>
> Vanessa McAlhaney wrote:
>
> > Sorry to interupt. But Umm... whats a postal letterbox??? I went
to
> > the yahoo group and it didnt really say other than a offshoot
from
> > letterboxing?
>
> Letterboxing for the infirm and homebound. The box arrives in
your
> mailbox, you stamp in, then ship it off to somewhere else. No
need
> to ever put on your hiking boots or put gas in the car. You can
find
> better descriptions on AtlasQuest.com.
>
> In the original incarnation, you'd ship it back to the owner.
> Nowadays, though, a "ring" is popular where you ship it on to the
> next guy in the ring, until it makes it around and back to the
owner.
>
> -- Kirbert
>
Re: [LbNA] Postal Boxes
From: (bella0514@aol.com) |
Date: 2007-06-23 11:44:03 UTC-04:00
Don't worry about not seeing me out on the trails because that would never happen but I thought postals might be fun :)
-----Original Message-----
From: Kirbert
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 10:10 am
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Postal Boxes
Heather wrote:
> Hi all. Sparky Butterfly here. I was just wondering how it is that
> you become included in the postal letterboxing? I have found 100+
> boxes and many HH's and I thought it would be neat to expand my boxing
> to postals but was not sure how to become part of that loop.
I almost afraid to tell you this. Log onto AtlasQuest.com and select
"Boards", then "Categories", then "Letterbox Central", then "Postal
Letterboxes". In fact, select "Boards" then "Favorite Boards" and
sign up for that board. You'll be up to your eyeballs in postals in
a New York minute, and we'll never hear from you again!
You might want to know that many of those members consider postals an
opportunity to carve large stamps, larger than you'll typically find
in a regular letterbox. There have been a couple that were carved
from an entire sheet of PZ Kut, which is 10" x 4.75".
-- Kirbert
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-----Original Message-----
From: Kirbert
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 10:10 am
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Postal Boxes
Heather wrote:
> Hi all. Sparky Butterfly here. I was just wondering how it is that
> you become included in the postal letterboxing? I have found 100+
> boxes and many HH's and I thought it would be neat to expand my boxing
> to postals but was not sure how to become part of that loop.
I almost afraid to tell you this. Log onto AtlasQuest.com and select
"Boards", then "Categories", then "Letterbox Central", then "Postal
Letterboxes". In fact, select "Boards" then "Favorite Boards" and
sign up for that board. You'll be up to your eyeballs in postals in
a New York minute, and we'll never hear from you again!
You might want to know that many of those members consider postals an
opportunity to carve large stamps, larger than you'll typically find
in a regular letterbox. There have been a couple that were carved
from an entire sheet of PZ Kut, which is 10" x 4.75".
-- Kirbert
________________________________________________________________________
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[LbNA] Re: Postal Boxes
From: Lightnin Bug (rpboehme@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2007-06-23 16:02:29 UTC
There is a link to a description on that page. It may appear blue on
your browser.
On a side note, there was some erroneous info on postals in another
post. A postal travels from person to person via snailmail,
eventually returning to the creator. A ring is where several people
create postals and these boxes are sent around the ring int he same
fashion, with everybody eventually seeing all of them and then the
originals returning to their owner. Sometimes the PLB's disappear
into 'black holes' as people do not send them on, but this is rare.
AQ is also a resource as well.
LB
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Vanessa McAlhaney
wrote:
>
> Sorry to interupt. But Umm... whats a postal letterbox??? I went to
the yahoo group and it didnt really say other than a offshoot from
letterboxing?
>
> Lightnin Bug wrote: Try Here:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/postal_letterboxing/
>
> LB
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Heather" wrote:
> >
> > Hi all. Sparky Butterfly here. I was just wondering how it is
that
> > you become included in the postal letterboxing? I have found 100+
> > boxes and many HH's and I thought it would be neat to expand my
> boxing
> > to postals but was not sure how to become part of that loop. Any
> > suggestions very welcom
> >
> > Sparky Butterfly
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s
user panel and lay it on us.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
your browser.
On a side note, there was some erroneous info on postals in another
post. A postal travels from person to person via snailmail,
eventually returning to the creator. A ring is where several people
create postals and these boxes are sent around the ring int he same
fashion, with everybody eventually seeing all of them and then the
originals returning to their owner. Sometimes the PLB's disappear
into 'black holes' as people do not send them on, but this is rare.
AQ is also a resource as well.
LB
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Vanessa McAlhaney
>
> Sorry to interupt. But Umm... whats a postal letterbox??? I went to
the yahoo group and it didnt really say other than a offshoot from
letterboxing?
>
> Lightnin Bug
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/postal_letterboxing/
>
> LB
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Heather"
> >
> > Hi all. Sparky Butterfly here. I was just wondering how it is
that
> > you become included in the postal letterboxing? I have found 100+
> > boxes and many HH's and I thought it would be neat to expand my
> boxing
> > to postals but was not sure how to become part of that loop. Any
> > suggestions very welcom
> >
> > Sparky Butterfly
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s
user panel and lay it on us.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Re: [LbNA] Postal Boxes
From: archimedesscrew17 (sharon@bignachos.com) |
Date: 2007-06-23 18:25:36 UTC
> You might want to know that many of those members consider postals an
> opportunity to carve large stamps, larger than you'll typically find
> in a regular letterbox. There have been a couple that were carved
> from an entire sheet of PZ Kut, which is 10" x 4.75".
That was probably a contribution to the Big Stamps ring. This is not
at all typical of postals. Most are the same size as what you would
find in a box.
> opportunity to carve large stamps, larger than you'll typically find
> in a regular letterbox. There have been a couple that were carved
> from an entire sheet of PZ Kut, which is 10" x 4.75".
That was probably a contribution to the Big Stamps ring. This is not
at all typical of postals. Most are the same size as what you would
find in a box.
Re: [LbNA] Re: Postal Boxes
From: Vanessa McAlhaney (mcalhaney2@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2007-06-23 13:29:58 UTC-07:00
thank you perdu,
that was a great description well put and very understandable. I appreciate it.
Vanessa
perdu_watcher wrote:
My two cents on postal Lb's....I LOVE them! But, they are highly
addictive.
They are for anyone.
Pick a theme/catagory/idea and see who is interested in creating a
stamp and logbook. I prefer when each member of the ring knows who
all is in it but only has one address.
The ring leader sets a start date. On that date everyone mails
their own Postal Lb to the one address they have, then when they
receive one they stamp just like finding one in the wild and again
mail to their one address. When you receive yours back, the ring
has completed and you can retire the Lb or plant it in the wild.
Sometimes we can do things we wouldn't normally do for 'wild'
plants. Like include a tape/cd with 'must listen to' music or
swap...something, etc.
Ok, that's probably a dime rather than two cents, but like I said,
love 'em and they're addictive...that's my story and I'm stickin' to
it.
~Perdu
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Kirbert" wrote:
>
> Vanessa McAlhaney wrote:
>
> > Sorry to interupt. But Umm... whats a postal letterbox??? I went
to
> > the yahoo group and it didnt really say other than a offshoot
from
> > letterboxing?
>
> Letterboxing for the infirm and homebound. The box arrives in
your
> mailbox, you stamp in, then ship it off to somewhere else. No
need
> to ever put on your hiking boots or put gas in the car. You can
find
> better descriptions on AtlasQuest.com.
>
> In the original incarnation, you'd ship it back to the owner.
> Nowadays, though, a "ring" is popular where you ship it on to the
> next guy in the ring, until it makes it around and back to the
owner.
>
> -- Kirbert
>
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that was a great description well put and very understandable. I appreciate it.
Vanessa
perdu_watcher
My two cents on postal Lb's....I LOVE them! But, they are highly
addictive.
They are for anyone.
Pick a theme/catagory/idea and see who is interested in creating a
stamp and logbook. I prefer when each member of the ring knows who
all is in it but only has one address.
The ring leader sets a start date. On that date everyone mails
their own Postal Lb to the one address they have, then when they
receive one they stamp just like finding one in the wild and again
mail to their one address. When you receive yours back, the ring
has completed and you can retire the Lb or plant it in the wild.
Sometimes we can do things we wouldn't normally do for 'wild'
plants. Like include a tape/cd with 'must listen to' music or
swap...something, etc.
Ok, that's probably a dime rather than two cents, but like I said,
love 'em and they're addictive...that's my story and I'm stickin' to
it.
~Perdu
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Kirbert"
>
> Vanessa McAlhaney wrote:
>
> > Sorry to interupt. But Umm... whats a postal letterbox??? I went
to
> > the yahoo group and it didnt really say other than a offshoot
from
> > letterboxing?
>
> Letterboxing for the infirm and homebound. The box arrives in
your
> mailbox, you stamp in, then ship it off to somewhere else. No
need
> to ever put on your hiking boots or put gas in the car. You can
find
> better descriptions on AtlasQuest.com.
>
> In the original incarnation, you'd ship it back to the owner.
> Nowadays, though, a "ring" is popular where you ship it on to the
> next guy in the ring, until it makes it around and back to the
owner.
>
> -- Kirbert
>
---------------------------------
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Re: [LbNA] Re: Postal Boxes
From: Vanessa McAlhaney (mcalhaney2@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2007-06-23 13:32:11 UTC-07:00
thank you kirbert. thats a great idea for those who are homebound for whatever reason. i love how versatile this hobby is turning out to be.
Vanessa
Kirbert wrote:
Vanessa McAlhaney wrote:
> Sorry to interupt. But Umm... whats a postal letterbox??? I went to
> the yahoo group and it didnt really say other than a offshoot from
> letterboxing?
Letterboxing for the infirm and homebound. The box arrives in your
mailbox, you stamp in, then ship it off to somewhere else. No need
to ever put on your hiking boots or put gas in the car. You can find
better descriptions on AtlasQuest.com.
In the original incarnation, you'd ship it back to the owner.
Nowadays, though, a "ring" is popular where you ship it on to the
next guy in the ring, until it makes it around and back to the owner.
-- Kirbert
---------------------------------
Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha!
Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games.
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Vanessa
Kirbert
Vanessa McAlhaney wrote:
> Sorry to interupt. But Umm... whats a postal letterbox??? I went to
> the yahoo group and it didnt really say other than a offshoot from
> letterboxing?
Letterboxing for the infirm and homebound. The box arrives in your
mailbox, you stamp in, then ship it off to somewhere else. No need
to ever put on your hiking boots or put gas in the car. You can find
better descriptions on AtlasQuest.com.
In the original incarnation, you'd ship it back to the owner.
Nowadays, though, a "ring" is popular where you ship it on to the
next guy in the ring, until it makes it around and back to the owner.
-- Kirbert
---------------------------------
Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha!
Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games.
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Re: [LbNA] Postal Boxes
From: Barefoot Lucy (barefootlucy@gmail.com) |
Date: 2007-06-23 18:22:47 UTC-05:00
I'm not personally a fan of postal letterboxing, but only because it doesn't
fill my reasons for letterboxing and I know that I am horrible about
visiting the post office, so I know it isn't a fit FOR ME. However, I know
several PLB'ers who have used it to develop their carving skills and to
express themselves in boxes that they would never want to place in the
wild. And through PLB'ing, they've met and made friends they would never
box with normally. I don't think that makes them any less of letterboxers
than someone who only participates in traditional boxes.
As with any type of letterboxing, be it "traditional" or "postal" or
"virtual" or "competitive" or " charitable" or whatever, there are GOOD
boxes and BAD boxes. And what IS for one person doesn't have to be for
another, If you want to give postals a try, DO IT! My only advice would
be to not sign up for very many until you've gotten a few and know whether
you really like it.
On 6/23/07, bella0514@aol.com wrote:
>
> Don't worry about not seeing me out on the trails because that would
> never happen but I thought postals might be fun :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kirbert>
> To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 10:10 am
> Subject: Re: [LbNA] Postal Boxes
>
> Heather wrote:
>
> > Hi all. Sparky Butterfly here. I was just wondering how it is that
> > you become included in the postal letterboxing? I have found 100+
> > boxes and many HH's and I thought it would be neat to expand my boxing
> > to postals but was not sure how to become part of that loop.
>
> I almost afraid to tell you this. Log onto AtlasQuest.com and select
> "Boards", then "Categories", then "Letterbox Central", then "Postal
> Letterboxes". In fact, select "Boards" then "Favorite Boards" and
> sign up for that board. You'll be up to your eyeballs in postals in
> a New York minute, and we'll never hear from you again!
>
> You might want to know that many of those members consider postals an
> opportunity to carve large stamps, larger than you'll typically find
> in a regular letterbox. There have been a couple that were carved
> from an entire sheet of PZ Kut, which is 10" x 4.75".
>
> -- Kirbert
>
> __________________________________________________________
> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free
> from AOL at AOL.com.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
--
Barefoot Lucy
"It's not about footwear, it's about philosophy"
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
fill my reasons for letterboxing and I know that I am horrible about
visiting the post office, so I know it isn't a fit FOR ME. However, I know
several PLB'ers who have used it to develop their carving skills and to
express themselves in boxes that they would never want to place in the
wild. And through PLB'ing, they've met and made friends they would never
box with normally. I don't think that makes them any less of letterboxers
than someone who only participates in traditional boxes.
As with any type of letterboxing, be it "traditional" or "postal" or
"virtual" or "competitive" or " charitable" or whatever, there are GOOD
boxes and BAD boxes. And what IS for one person doesn't have to be for
another, If you want to give postals a try, DO IT! My only advice would
be to not sign up for very many until you've gotten a few and know whether
you really like it.
On 6/23/07, bella0514@aol.com
>
> Don't worry about not seeing me out on the trails because that would
> never happen but I thought postals might be fun :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kirbert
> To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 10:10 am
> Subject: Re: [LbNA] Postal Boxes
>
> Heather wrote:
>
> > Hi all. Sparky Butterfly here. I was just wondering how it is that
> > you become included in the postal letterboxing? I have found 100+
> > boxes and many HH's and I thought it would be neat to expand my boxing
> > to postals but was not sure how to become part of that loop.
>
> I almost afraid to tell you this. Log onto AtlasQuest.com and select
> "Boards", then "Categories", then "Letterbox Central", then "Postal
> Letterboxes". In fact, select "Boards" then "Favorite Boards" and
> sign up for that board. You'll be up to your eyeballs in postals in
> a New York minute, and we'll never hear from you again!
>
> You might want to know that many of those members consider postals an
> opportunity to carve large stamps, larger than you'll typically find
> in a regular letterbox. There have been a couple that were carved
> from an entire sheet of PZ Kut, which is 10" x 4.75".
>
> -- Kirbert
>
> __________________________________________________________
> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free
> from AOL at AOL.com.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
--
Barefoot Lucy
"It's not about footwear, it's about philosophy"
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [LbNA] Postal Boxes
From: donutz716 (donutz716@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2007-06-23 17:23:41 UTC-07:00
Hi Sparky Butterfly!
I haven't been reading this chain until now, but wanted to put in my 2 cents about postal letterboxes. The first time I became aware of postal letterboxes was several years ago when a friend of mine received the coolest PLB that she received. It was a piece of Aztec gold (carved) and wrapped in a piece of leather. There was also a treasure chest filled with "jewels" and coins of chocolate. The logbook was extravagant as well looking somewhat "Pirate-like." Since then, I've viewed PLBs as an arrival of entertainment - a package complete with a theme - logbook and carving to wow the recipient.
I was a crafter before I was a letterboxer and also love the Lord of the Rings. I made several boxes and asked the PLBing community to answer questions about LOTRs so that just those who were interested would participate. I learned that some people do not move the boxes along as quickly as others or boxes would end up in "black holes" - those people who are having some sort of problem and don't mail them out at all. (By the way, the Aztec Gold box went missing eventually.)
Being part of PLBing means that you must be prepared that there's a possibility your box will get lost. This can happen if the box is planted in the wild too. Out of the 5 Lord of the Rings boxes - 2 went missing. Out of the 60 boxes or so that I planted in the wild, 1 went missing. I feel a lot safer planting my boxes then mailing them. I put the same effort in my "wild"boxes as I would in a PLB. I like to entertain my audience.
Another point is that the new postal rates have increased the cost of PLBing significantly. Good advice was given - try it out with a few boxes before you get in over your head.
Hope this helps.
Enjoy!
donutz716
P.S. - I have never gotten a PLB with a stamp the size of a sheet of PZ cut - Thank God! It would not fit in my logbook...
Barefoot Lucy wrote:
I'm not personally a fan of postal letterboxing, but only because it doesn't
fill my reasons for letterboxing and I know that I am horrible about
visiting the post office, so I know it isn't a fit FOR ME. However, I know
several PLB'ers who have used it to develop their carving skills and to
express themselves in boxes that they would never want to place in the
wild. And through PLB'ing, they've met and made friends they would never
box with normally. I don't think that makes them any less of letterboxers
than someone who only participates in traditional boxes.
As with any type of letterboxing, be it "traditional" or "postal" or
"virtual" or "competitive" or " charitable" or whatever, there are GOOD
boxes and BAD boxes. And what IS for one person doesn't have to be for
another, If you want to give postals a try, DO IT! My only advice would
be to not sign up for very many until you've gotten a few and know whether
you really like it.
On 6/23/07, bella0514@aol.com wrote:
>
> Don't worry about not seeing me out on the trails because that would
> never happen but I thought postals might be fun :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kirbert>
> To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 10:10 am
> Subject: Re: [LbNA] Postal Boxes
>
> Heather wrote:
>
> > Hi all. Sparky Butterfly here. I was just wondering how it is that
> > you become included in the postal letterboxing? I have found 100+
> > boxes and many HH's and I thought it would be neat to expand my boxing
> > to postals but was not sure how to become part of that loop.
>
> I almost afraid to tell you this. Log onto AtlasQuest.com and select
> "Boards", then "Categories", then "Letterbox Central", then "Postal
> Letterboxes". In fact, select "Boards" then "Favorite Boards" and
> sign up for that board. You'll be up to your eyeballs in postals in
> a New York minute, and we'll never hear from you again!
>
> You might want to know that many of those members consider postals an
> opportunity to carve large stamps, larger than you'll typically find
> in a regular letterbox. There have been a couple that were carved
> from an entire sheet of PZ Kut, which is 10" x 4.75".
>
> -- Kirbert
>
> __________________________________________________________
> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free
> from AOL at AOL.com.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
--
Barefoot Lucy
"It's not about footwear, it's about philosophy"
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I haven't been reading this chain until now, but wanted to put in my 2 cents about postal letterboxes. The first time I became aware of postal letterboxes was several years ago when a friend of mine received the coolest PLB that she received. It was a piece of Aztec gold (carved) and wrapped in a piece of leather. There was also a treasure chest filled with "jewels" and coins of chocolate. The logbook was extravagant as well looking somewhat "Pirate-like." Since then, I've viewed PLBs as an arrival of entertainment - a package complete with a theme - logbook and carving to wow the recipient.
I was a crafter before I was a letterboxer and also love the Lord of the Rings. I made several boxes and asked the PLBing community to answer questions about LOTRs so that just those who were interested would participate. I learned that some people do not move the boxes along as quickly as others or boxes would end up in "black holes" - those people who are having some sort of problem and don't mail them out at all. (By the way, the Aztec Gold box went missing eventually.)
Being part of PLBing means that you must be prepared that there's a possibility your box will get lost. This can happen if the box is planted in the wild too. Out of the 5 Lord of the Rings boxes - 2 went missing. Out of the 60 boxes or so that I planted in the wild, 1 went missing. I feel a lot safer planting my boxes then mailing them. I put the same effort in my "wild"boxes as I would in a PLB. I like to entertain my audience.
Another point is that the new postal rates have increased the cost of PLBing significantly. Good advice was given - try it out with a few boxes before you get in over your head.
Hope this helps.
Enjoy!
donutz716
P.S. - I have never gotten a PLB with a stamp the size of a sheet of PZ cut - Thank God! It would not fit in my logbook...
Barefoot Lucy
I'm not personally a fan of postal letterboxing, but only because it doesn't
fill my reasons for letterboxing and I know that I am horrible about
visiting the post office, so I know it isn't a fit FOR ME. However, I know
several PLB'ers who have used it to develop their carving skills and to
express themselves in boxes that they would never want to place in the
wild. And through PLB'ing, they've met and made friends they would never
box with normally. I don't think that makes them any less of letterboxers
than someone who only participates in traditional boxes.
As with any type of letterboxing, be it "traditional" or "postal" or
"virtual" or "competitive" or " charitable" or whatever, there are GOOD
boxes and BAD boxes. And what IS for one person doesn't have to be for
another, If you want to give postals a try, DO IT! My only advice would
be to not sign up for very many until you've gotten a few and know whether
you really like it.
On 6/23/07, bella0514@aol.com
>
> Don't worry about not seeing me out on the trails because that would
> never happen but I thought postals might be fun :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kirbert
> To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 10:10 am
> Subject: Re: [LbNA] Postal Boxes
>
> Heather wrote:
>
> > Hi all. Sparky Butterfly here. I was just wondering how it is that
> > you become included in the postal letterboxing? I have found 100+
> > boxes and many HH's and I thought it would be neat to expand my boxing
> > to postals but was not sure how to become part of that loop.
>
> I almost afraid to tell you this. Log onto AtlasQuest.com and select
> "Boards", then "Categories", then "Letterbox Central", then "Postal
> Letterboxes". In fact, select "Boards" then "Favorite Boards" and
> sign up for that board. You'll be up to your eyeballs in postals in
> a New York minute, and we'll never hear from you again!
>
> You might want to know that many of those members consider postals an
> opportunity to carve large stamps, larger than you'll typically find
> in a regular letterbox. There have been a couple that were carved
> from an entire sheet of PZ Kut, which is 10" x 4.75".
>
> -- Kirbert
>
> __________________________________________________________
> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free
> from AOL at AOL.com.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
--
Barefoot Lucy
"It's not about footwear, it's about philosophy"
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Re: [LbNA] Postal Boxes
From: perdu_watcher (perdu_watcher@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2007-06-24 01:32:46 UTC
Well put, Barefooted-One...well put indeed!
Some like only long hikes, some like urban, some like drive-
bys...there is something for everyone!
I work across the street from a Post Office and there is a Kiosk
near my house, so the PO isn't an issue, but very good advice about
giving it a try before signing up for too many.
~Perdu
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Barefoot Lucy"
wrote:
>
> I'm not personally a fan of postal letterboxing, but only because
it doesn't
> fill my reasons for letterboxing and I know that I am horrible
about
> visiting the post office, so I know it isn't a fit FOR ME.
However, I know
> several PLB'ers who have used it to develop their carving skills
and to
> express themselves in boxes that they would never want to place in
the
> wild. And through PLB'ing, they've met and made friends they
would never
> box with normally. I don't think that makes them any less of
letterboxers
> than someone who only participates in traditional boxes.
>
> As with any type of letterboxing, be it "traditional" or "postal"
or
> "virtual" or "competitive" or " charitable" or whatever, there are
GOOD
> boxes and BAD boxes. And what IS for one person doesn't have to
be for
> another, If you want to give postals a try, DO IT! My only
advice would
> be to not sign up for very many until you've gotten a few and know
whether
> you really like it.
>
>
> On 6/23/07, bella0514@... wrote:
> >
> > Don't worry about not seeing me out on the trails because that
would
> > never happen but I thought postals might be fun :)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kirbert>
> > To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 10:10 am
> > Subject: Re: [LbNA] Postal Boxes
> >
> > Heather wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all. Sparky Butterfly here. I was just wondering how it is
that
> > > you become included in the postal letterboxing? I have found
100+
> > > boxes and many HH's and I thought it would be neat to expand
my boxing
> > > to postals but was not sure how to become part of that loop.
> >
> > I almost afraid to tell you this. Log onto AtlasQuest.com and
select
> > "Boards", then "Categories", then "Letterbox Central",
then "Postal
> > Letterboxes". In fact, select "Boards" then "Favorite Boards" and
> > sign up for that board. You'll be up to your eyeballs in postals
in
> > a New York minute, and we'll never hear from you again!
> >
> > You might want to know that many of those members consider
postals an
> > opportunity to carve large stamps, larger than you'll typically
find
> > in a regular letterbox. There have been a couple that were carved
> > from an entire sheet of PZ Kut, which is 10" x 4.75".
> >
> > -- Kirbert
> >
> > __________________________________________________________
> > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about
what's free
> > from AOL at AOL.com.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Barefoot Lucy
> "It's not about footwear, it's about philosophy"
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Some like only long hikes, some like urban, some like drive-
bys...there is something for everyone!
I work across the street from a Post Office and there is a Kiosk
near my house, so the PO isn't an issue, but very good advice about
giving it a try before signing up for too many.
~Perdu
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Barefoot Lucy"
>
> I'm not personally a fan of postal letterboxing, but only because
it doesn't
> fill my reasons for letterboxing and I know that I am horrible
about
> visiting the post office, so I know it isn't a fit FOR ME.
However, I know
> several PLB'ers who have used it to develop their carving skills
and to
> express themselves in boxes that they would never want to place in
the
> wild. And through PLB'ing, they've met and made friends they
would never
> box with normally. I don't think that makes them any less of
letterboxers
> than someone who only participates in traditional boxes.
>
> As with any type of letterboxing, be it "traditional" or "postal"
or
> "virtual" or "competitive" or " charitable" or whatever, there are
GOOD
> boxes and BAD boxes. And what IS for one person doesn't have to
be for
> another, If you want to give postals a try, DO IT! My only
advice would
> be to not sign up for very many until you've gotten a few and know
whether
> you really like it.
>
>
> On 6/23/07, bella0514@...
> >
> > Don't worry about not seeing me out on the trails because that
would
> > never happen but I thought postals might be fun :)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kirbert
> > To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 10:10 am
> > Subject: Re: [LbNA] Postal Boxes
> >
> > Heather wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all. Sparky Butterfly here. I was just wondering how it is
that
> > > you become included in the postal letterboxing? I have found
100+
> > > boxes and many HH's and I thought it would be neat to expand
my boxing
> > > to postals but was not sure how to become part of that loop.
> >
> > I almost afraid to tell you this. Log onto AtlasQuest.com and
select
> > "Boards", then "Categories", then "Letterbox Central",
then "Postal
> > Letterboxes". In fact, select "Boards" then "Favorite Boards" and
> > sign up for that board. You'll be up to your eyeballs in postals
in
> > a New York minute, and we'll never hear from you again!
> >
> > You might want to know that many of those members consider
postals an
> > opportunity to carve large stamps, larger than you'll typically
find
> > in a regular letterbox. There have been a couple that were carved
> > from an entire sheet of PZ Kut, which is 10" x 4.75".
> >
> > -- Kirbert
> >
> > __________________________________________________________
> > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about
what's free
> > from AOL at AOL.com.
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Barefoot Lucy
> "It's not about footwear, it's about philosophy"
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Re: [LbNA] Postal Boxes
From: Kirbert (PalmK@nettally.com) |
Date: 2007-06-23 21:34:56 UTC-04:00
donutz716 wrote:
> Being part of PLBing means that you must be prepared that there's a
> possibility your box will get lost. This can happen if the box is
> planted in the wild too. Out of the 5 Lord of the Rings boxes - 2
> went missing. Out of the 60 boxes or so that I planted in the wild,
> 1 went missing. I feel a lot safer planting my boxes then mailing
> them.
Wow. I would not have expected that. I would have expected that a
lost PLB would be a rare thing indeed. I wouldn't expect the USPS to
lose more than one out of a thousand. And I wouldn't expect anyone
who actually signs up for a PLB to somehow lose it while it's in
their possession. What do you think happened to the two PLB's that
went missing?
I hate to even suggest that any letterboxers might be less than
honest, but is there any possibility that a boxer just decided to
keep a box? And if this ever happens, is there a way to blacklist
these people so nobody sends them any more PLB's?
-- Kirbert
> Being part of PLBing means that you must be prepared that there's a
> possibility your box will get lost. This can happen if the box is
> planted in the wild too. Out of the 5 Lord of the Rings boxes - 2
> went missing. Out of the 60 boxes or so that I planted in the wild,
> 1 went missing. I feel a lot safer planting my boxes then mailing
> them.
Wow. I would not have expected that. I would have expected that a
lost PLB would be a rare thing indeed. I wouldn't expect the USPS to
lose more than one out of a thousand. And I wouldn't expect anyone
who actually signs up for a PLB to somehow lose it while it's in
their possession. What do you think happened to the two PLB's that
went missing?
I hate to even suggest that any letterboxers might be less than
honest, but is there any possibility that a boxer just decided to
keep a box? And if this ever happens, is there a way to blacklist
these people so nobody sends them any more PLB's?
-- Kirbert
Re: [LbNA] Postal Boxes
From: Nathan Brown (Cyclonic07@aol.com) |
Date: 2007-06-24 08:11:31 UTC-04:00
bella0514@aol.com wrote:
> Don't worry about not seeing me out on the trails because that would never happen but I thought postals might be fun :)
>
>
Is there a reason?
--
Nathan Brown
AKA Cyclonic
Penncoasters.com
The Insensitivity rolls on...
Real men don't do virtual letterboxes OR pastels!
> Don't worry about not seeing me out on the trails because that would never happen but I thought postals might be fun :)
>
>
Is there a reason?
--
Nathan Brown
AKA Cyclonic
Penncoasters.com
The Insensitivity rolls on...
Real men don't do virtual letterboxes OR pastels!
Re: [LbNA] Postal Boxes
From: SandiBox (sandibox@msn.com) |
Date: 2007-06-24 17:18:50 UTC
PLBs can go missing for a number of reasons. If someone has a major
life event -- serious illness, family emergency, etc. -- postals in
their possession might not be mailed back out. Occasionally someone
gets in over their head and signs up for too many rings, then can't
afford the postage to mail the boxes back out. The PLB community has
been great in these situations, with several folks offering to retrieve
and mail the boxes back to their owners.
And yes, the USPS does lose or misdirect boxes on occasion too. My
neighborhood does not have traditional mailboxes in front of each
house. Rather, we have postal units on each street corner similar to
an apartment complex. Several months ago, our postal carrier
accidently put a PLB addressed to me into the box of someone a couple
of streets away... same house number, but different street. It took
that person a couple of weeks before he decided to bring me the
package. In the meantime, the delivery confirmation showed the box as
being delivered. I was horrified that I would be considered a "black
hole", but had no explanation until the neighbor showed up with the
box. Stuff happens!
SandiBox
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Kirbert" wrote:
>
Wow. I would not have expected that. I would have expected that a
> lost PLB would be a rare thing indeed. I wouldn't expect the USPS to
> lose more than one out of a thousand. And I wouldn't expect anyone
> who actually signs up for a PLB to somehow lose it while it's in
> their possession. What do you think happened to the two PLB's that
> went missing?
>
> I hate to even suggest that any letterboxers might be less than
> honest, but is there any possibility that a boxer just decided to
> keep a box? And if this ever happens, is there a way to blacklist
> these people so nobody sends them any more PLB's?
>
> -- Kirbert
>
life event -- serious illness, family emergency, etc. -- postals in
their possession might not be mailed back out. Occasionally someone
gets in over their head and signs up for too many rings, then can't
afford the postage to mail the boxes back out. The PLB community has
been great in these situations, with several folks offering to retrieve
and mail the boxes back to their owners.
And yes, the USPS does lose or misdirect boxes on occasion too. My
neighborhood does not have traditional mailboxes in front of each
house. Rather, we have postal units on each street corner similar to
an apartment complex. Several months ago, our postal carrier
accidently put a PLB addressed to me into the box of someone a couple
of streets away... same house number, but different street. It took
that person a couple of weeks before he decided to bring me the
package. In the meantime, the delivery confirmation showed the box as
being delivered. I was horrified that I would be considered a "black
hole", but had no explanation until the neighbor showed up with the
box. Stuff happens!
SandiBox
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Kirbert"
>
Wow. I would not have expected that. I would have expected that a
> lost PLB would be a rare thing indeed. I wouldn't expect the USPS to
> lose more than one out of a thousand. And I wouldn't expect anyone
> who actually signs up for a PLB to somehow lose it while it's in
> their possession. What do you think happened to the two PLB's that
> went missing?
>
> I hate to even suggest that any letterboxers might be less than
> honest, but is there any possibility that a boxer just decided to
> keep a box? And if this ever happens, is there a way to blacklist
> these people so nobody sends them any more PLB's?
>
> -- Kirbert
>
Re: [LbNA] Postal Boxes
From: (bella0514@aol.com) |
Date: 2007-06-24 23:57:06 UTC-04:00
What do you mean? Is there a reason Why you would never not see me out on the trails or why I thought Postals may be fun?
-----Original Message-----
From: Nathan Brown
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 8:11 am
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Postal Boxes
bella0514@aol.com wrote:
> Don't worry about not seeing me out on the trails because that would never happen but I thought postals might be fun :)
>
>
Is there a reason?
--
Nathan Brown
AKA Cyclonic
Penncoasters.com
The Insensitivity rolls on...
Real men don't do virtual letterboxes OR pastels!
________________________________________________________________________
AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
-----Original Message-----
From: Nathan Brown
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 8:11 am
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Postal Boxes
bella0514@aol.com wrote:
> Don't worry about not seeing me out on the trails because that would never happen but I thought postals might be fun :)
>
>
Is there a reason?
--
Nathan Brown
AKA Cyclonic
Penncoasters.com
The Insensitivity rolls on...
Real men don't do virtual letterboxes OR pastels!
________________________________________________________________________
AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.
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